Caitlin Czezowski

Dr. Pompa:
I’m so blessed to be here with one of our platinum doctors, Dr. Caitlin Czezowski. Gosh, you are one of the hosts of the 50 Ways of Women’s Wellness, and you’re one of our shining doctors, too. I mean, you have getting a lot more teaching for us because of just your width of knowledge that you have that you need to share. And, at the seminar November 14th through the 18th in Newport Beach, you are going to share one of my favorite topics. I’m kind of jealous that you’re going to be talking about this, cavitations. Some people just said, “What? What is that?” Well, you better listen up. Well, I’ll tell you what, I have to start with your story, Dr Caitlin, because it’s a good one or a bad one. I don’t know how to look at it, but that’s the way I look at mine, bad and good. But, anyways, welcome and thank you for doing this for this seminar.

Dr. Czezowski:
Thank you.

Dr. Pompa:
This is a really good topic, and I really want people to hear even on this webcast how important this topic is. You said something right before. You said, “Gosh, I just really want people to understand that this goes beyond what they think into so many different symptoms, bizarre, unexplainable conditions, diseases, including cancer.” I mean, there’s so many, but start with your story, because you have become an expert, you and your husband, in this field of dentistry. That’s the best way, is to go through it yourself.

Dr. Czezowski:
It’s seriously been a rabbit hole for me. So, for us, we didn’t actually have any symptoms. Luckily, my husband didn’t have any cavitations, so he didn’t go through that. But, he’s had his own fair share of dental issues that has affected him systemically. That’s really the thing that I think people need to understand is when you get something put in your mouth or something done to your teeth, it really kind of affects everywhere. So widespread, it can affect hormones. It can affect your ability to lose weight. It can affect your ability to sleep. It can influence cancer. It can cause infertility. It can cause thyroid conditions. It really just goes everywhere. The more that I read about it, the more that I’m like, “Holy smokes.” More doctors actually need to look into this because that’s really one of the contributing factors as to why their patients aren’t getting better.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it really is. It’s one of those hidden things that our platinum group of doctors, when you come to the seminar, you’ll get to meet. We all consider when we’re taking a history. Folks, just so you know, let me back up just a bit. A cavitation is if you had an extraction of any type in the jaw, typically percentage wise wisdom teeth, the further back the tooth, the greater percentage of chance that you have one of these cavitations. So, imagine they take the wisdom tooth out, and then it heals over, and you have no pain. But, a 20 years later or more, you have this infection that’s built up in the jaw. Again, still no pain, typically. Yet, if that infection is basically affecting your immune system systemically, because obviously it can transfer directly into the bloodstream a lot of the times through the sinuses or just the vascular supply to the area.

The bottom line is this. We see severe conditions. I think most people watching this, Dr. Caitlin, have heard that root canal is on the side of breast cancer, right? Well, it’s capitation on the side of breast cancer. Matter of fact, they’re typically more wicked, even infected than root canals. But, it goes far beyond that. I mean, I’ve had people have septic arthritis on the side or just systemically after cavitation. My story goes, I had found, it was a partly impacted wisdom tooth. He went in and took it, found all this infection under there. Two days later, not even, the infection went up here. I was all effected like this. I said, Jerry, Dr. Jerry who was at the seminar, you and Jerry are covering this topic, actually. I said, “You didn’t touch anything in the upper left, did you?”

And, he said, “No.” I said, “Well, I think I know what happened. The bacteria literally ran from here to an old where a wisdom tooth was out, which I had it supposedly done correctly, and it formed a cavitation.” Anyways, that that started a whole line of that bacteria ended up in my neck, septic arthritis in my gut, SIBO. I mean, it was a disaster. I mean, honestly, and I didn’t protect myself. We have a protocol. So, caution, you’re going to discuss that protocol. Really, really important that you listen to us. Finish your story, though, because it really affected your life similar to what I went through. I would argue worse.

Dr. Czezowski:
Yeah. So, I actually just like you said, had no technical symptoms of an injection. My teeth didn’t hurt. My mouth didn’t hurt. Every once in a while if I ate something that had too much sugar, it would feel like a tooth was going to erupt my bottom molars. I was like, “Well, that’s kind of weird.” But, I went and got a cone beam done. When the dentist sends it off to a radiologist, they actually wrote in-

Dr. Pompa:
What’s a cone beam? Explain to them, what’s a cone beam before you move.

Dr. Czezowski:
So, a cone-beam is a 3D scan of your jaw. It will show infections. It will show, oh, so much more than what an actual x-ray will show. X-rays typically will not show cavitations, infections. They won’t typically show cysts or things like that growing under the teeth if there’s an infected root canal. So, the cone beam really is the standard for determining whether somebody has a cavitation or not in their mouth. Not every dentist has it. You’ve got to find a special dentist to get it done. The reason is most dentists actually don’t know how to read it because they don’t have the appropriate program to actually go through and read it. Literally, you kind of use a mouse, and it scrolls through just like an MRI or a CT scan elsewhere. So, if you don’t have the proper software, it’s not going to show you what’s actually there.

Even though the radiologist had that software, what they thought was the size of the cavitations I had was nowhere near the actual size of the cavitations. The oral surgeon tried to talk me out of doing the uppers. He’s like, “They’re so small. It’s not a big deal.” I was like, “No, no, no, no, no, no. If I have any kind of infection here, this is out. I don’t care. You’re going in. You’re cleaning this out.” When he opened up my uppers, he was like, “Oh, gosh. They’re four times bigger than what the CT scan showed.” The bottom ones were so bad that he had to hold up the nerve to clean out the infected material, which ultimately is gangrenous. That’s really the consistency that it is, and he was worried that he was going to end up breaking my jaw for taking so much out.

It was nuts. So, we were discussing how long a journey it is to actually heal from this type of cavitation. Now, not everyone’s going to have it as bad as me. For some reason, I was super lucky and ended up having four bad ones, two extreme ones. The oral surgeon said that it was top three worst they’ve ever seen in that office, and that’s pretty much all that office has done for 20 years. So, I’m one of those go big or go home kind of people, I guess. But, I’m still dealing with the after effects, because like you, the infection wasn’t just here. It ended up clogging into my lymph. Now, I have like a backup of whether it’s parasites or yeast showing up on my skin, on the worst side, which is my left. But, the good thing is I was able to breathe through my nose the next day, first time in like three years. Then, my hormones for the first time ever actually balancing out. So, no matter what I did before supplements, eating, fasting, it wasn’t cutting it.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and your husband had a different story. We see this all the time. This is how important dentistry is to figuring out what’s going on with somebody. He had a crown, which many crowns have metal inside them, right? It doesn’t look like they have metal on the outside, over a small piece of amalgam. Tell that story a little bit.

Dr. Czezowski:
So, he ended up getting a crown a probably 10 years ago for a cracked tooth. We knew the dentist that put the crown on, and we said we don’t want any metal. Don’t use anything with metal in his mouth. They said, “Yeah, fine, no big deal. Won’t do it.” So, when we moved to Washington, we found a biological dentist, because he did have a silver filling that he needed removed. So, we wanted to make sure we had it done properly. She was like, “You’ve got to get this crown out. We’re like, “No, no, no. It’s fine. There’s nothing in there. It’s okay.” She’s like, “No, there’s probably mercury under there.” We’re like, “No, no. We know the person that put it in.” We called up our old dentist, asked, “Is there any silver under there?” No, we didn’t use any. None is under there. Well, the crown needed to be replaced. So, when she took the crown off, there was a massive chunk of silver under there. We were just blown away, completely blown away.

Dr. Pompa:
And, he got that out and immediately, I was like … I saw it at the next seminar. I’m like, “Niles?” I don’t even recognize him. He’s lost weight. He did nothing different. His hormones just went normal, and he literally was like, “Oh my God.” Yeah, I’ve got that out. Weight started piling off.

Dr. Czezowski:
It was literally within a few weeks that the rest of the inflammation that no matter what we did was going down. Yeah, by March or April when we saw you, he was already down another 15 pounds without doing anything different.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, this is one of our platinums. This was this week, and this was on our Voxer group that we train with. She left a Voxer. I won’t play it, but it was basically, she left there, and her life already changed. I mean, and we hear that all the time. It’s like, “Oh my gosh.” Headaches, gone. Pain, gone. It’s amazing how many times that happens. It reminds me, because our last seminar, we had a guy give a testimony. I just spoke to him on the phone yesterday. He had 21 years of pain. He walked out of the office after getting cavitations done, and his pain was gone. That was a long time ago. I mean, his pain is still gone.

But, the point is that this, these infections cause so many, many hidden problems. So does amalgam. What happened to your husband was there was galvanism there where it was literally a current between the metals, which creates all kinds of problems. How many people have that, and they don’t know just because it’s underneath? They think, oh, that crown was there. The reason they used to do that is because they would want to not take out the filling and de-stabilize the tooth. So, they’d just cover it. Meanwhile, they were poisoning people there as well.

Dr. Czezowski:
Yeah, and it’s one of those things where the more that I read, and I love reading on this stuff for some goofy reason, I don’t know why. I’ve never wanted to be a dentist. Actually, teeth kind of gross me out for the most part. But, how it affects your whole body is completely fascinating. Really, if people want to get their patients to that next level of health, they have to understand that mouth, body connection, no doubt.

Dr. Pompa:
Gerry, Dr. Gerry Curatola who will speak, you all will speak right near each other on this topic. It’s such a huge topic. We both have sent so many people to the right dentist, Gerry being one of them. There’s a process that we do, folks, before. There’s a process during, and there’s a process after. Obviously, we’ll be discussing that, but I could tell you that there is many people out there with autoimmune, unexplainable illnesses, hormone dysregulation, even weight loss problems like your husband, and it’s coming from here. Cancer related, you name it, the science is stacking up.

It was a study. It was 2018 now, February, 2018. It was basically the FDA now saying seven out of ten inflammatory chronic diseases are related to oral microbes, infections coming from the mouth. This is a big deal, man. The ADA is just sweeping it under the rug. Doctors aren’t dealing with it. I can’t tell you how many people come to me. They’ve been to the best in functional medicine, and they were never asked if they had teeth extracted. They were never even asked about their mouth. Yet, I don’t even understand that, because so many people, this is where the problem starts. Do you find the same?

Dr. Czezowski:
Yeah, actually, I just had a conversation with one of our clients who … She is doing way better than she was before, but she has old root canals, and she has an active infection. They want to do another root canal. I was like, “no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.” You’re having AFib because of what’s happening. I pulled out the tooth chart I was like, “Look, let’s draw this down.” She was like, “Oh my God, I’ve got to get this taken care of. I’ve got to get this tooth pulled. Where do I go?” I was like, “You can go to my dentist. You can go to American Bio Dental. You’ve just got to get it done right.” Because, she spent thousands. I’m talking $50,000 on her teeth before, and it was done all wrong. She’s like, “Is it going to cost me another 50?” I was like, “Probably not, but you’ve got to get it done right, or you’re going to continue to have the AFib and the swelling and the high blood sugars and the fatigue and the just feeling crappy.” So, it happens all the time.

Dr. Pompa:
You mentioned American Bio Dental. They do an amazing job down there for very expensive. I will say though that they’re not up to speed on the cavitation. I just yesterday, I’m looking at my files there. I just yesterday had a client who went there, and they were like, “Oh no, it looks fine.” Right? Again, they don’t know how to read cone beam because it’s new to them.

Dr. Czezowski:
They probe. So, I agree the cavitations is still-

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s the old fashioned way. By the way, that’s what happened to me. They just go in and kind of like going into dry wall, where you kind of drill in, and if you hit the beam or the stud, it’s solid all the way through. If you miss, it goes [inaudible 00:15:15]. That’s kind of what they’re doing. But, that’s an old way. The cone beam is the new way, and like you said, there’s a couple of cautions here. Number one, I’ve had people say, “Oh, I got a cone beam,” and it wasn’t a cone beam. Number two, they have to know how to read it. It’s a special software, as you pointed out, that they have to have. And, they have to be trained in reading them.

Anyways, the person came back, and they got a second opinion here in the States. Sure enough, they had cavitation. So, very great to get metal fillings, bridges, all that done correct. They do an amazing job. They’re very, very expensive, but you have to find somebody that does it right. We have a growing list of that, because we have so many of us trained in this around the country. So, we do have a growing list of good dentists.

Dr. Czezowski:
At some point, I will have a complete list of dentists that I will put together for people to say, “Look, this is who I would go to,” just because it’s honestly through trial and error. Just much like yourself, Dr. Pompa, why we’ve come up with these pre-, during, post-cavitation surgeries, pre-, during, post-amalgam, pre-, during, post-root canal. Hindsight, I’m like, “Man, I would’ve done things so much differently with my cavitations, and I probably wouldn’t still be dealing with some of the after effects if had I known back then.” But, I’m grateful that I’m learning on myself and not somebody else.

Dr. Pompa:
Me too, Caitlin. It’s probably why, though, that we’re both very passionate about this, because if I didn’t walk away from that with a successful surgery in the sense of, “Hey, no symptoms, move on.” I wouldn’t have known the impact that it has on people. But, we just happened upon that infection, and I wasn’t prepared, and it went systemic on me. I mean, I had no upper neck problem ever, and days later, it was like I couldn’t even turn my head without pain. And, those bacteria went in there. It was about two months later I ended up with SIBO, which is most people get small intestinal bacteria overgrowth from food poisoning, believe it or not. But, it takes two or three months to manifest. That’s exactly what happened to me with the cavitation. I didn’t associate it right away, because it was two, three month delay.

So, the point is, these bacteria are nasty. They mobilize. You need the right protocol. You need to learn this stuff, docs. You do. I tell you, if there’s just one subject, why you need to be in Newport, it could be this one. If you don’t understand this in practice, and you truly have a heart to get people well, then you know you need to know this, every bit of it. You need these protocols. Dr. Caitlin and myself are very passionate about, as well as Dr. Jerry. He got into this after I sent him one very challenged person after another, and he removed their cavitation and watched their health transform and made him a strong believer.

Dr. Czezowski:
Oh my gosh, absolutely. You guys have to come listen to Dr. Jerry talk about the actual mouth, because please don’t misunderstand. I’m not a dentist. I’m not a specialist in the mouth, but connecting what can happen from procedures or going what’s wrong systemically, that’s really where I start to shine, because I love physiology. I’m actually a big dork. I love looking at different things and connecting them. So, I think it’ll be really good to put the two of us together, not necessarily on stage. I don’t know if anyone will get a word in edgewise between the two of us, but it really will change your guys’ practice, the way that you look at people, and honestly your patient’s outcomes. They’re going to think that you were the greatest doctor ever, because now you’re doing things that nobody else has, and they’re getting results that they’ve been looking for for years.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly. And, as always, folks, we’ll put the link here to come to the seminar. You always get the best deal from these webcasts. So, there it is. We need more of you, honestly, on our team understanding this, and this topic alone, it’s worth coming for, no doubt about it. But, you’re not a dentist. But, see, a dentist doesn’t deal with what we do ahead of time. And, that’s what you’re bringing, and after, right? They can do it correctly during, but it’s the detox after and what you do in the prep before that makes all the difference in the world. So, of course you’re not a dentist to bring that message, because they do their part, no doubt. So Dr. Caitlin, thank you. I can’t wait. Obviously, you’ve learned a lot, and this is information that’s going to just transform a lot of lives always. So, thank you for doing this, and thank you for-

Dr. Czezowski:
Thank you.

Dr. Pompa:
The seminar, as well.

Dr. Czezowski:
Yeah, and you guys have got to be there to get those protocols that will change your practice. I promise you.

Dr. Pompa:
It’s true.